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Jeff Young - OCLC Research
Jeff Young - OCLC Research


While I like the idea of mocking up LCSH in a Wikibase instance, I think that basing it on Nomen (as opposed to "concepts" or "entities") is misguided and substantially increases confusion rather than resolving it.  
While I like the idea of mocking up LCSH in a Wikibase instance, I think that basing it on Nomen (as opposed to "concepts" and/or "RWOs") is misguided and increases complexity rather than resolve it.  


I understand and agree that Access Control Points are fundamental to MARC (and community localization in general) and that Wikidata isn't a substitute. I would vehemently argue, though, that most of problems being addressed here CAN be solved using a RWO-oriented Wikibase model combined with enforcement of immutable labels. It would be easier to demonstrate the pros and cons with examples and historical context than explain in words, but I'll save those for later.
I understand and agree that Access Control Points are fundamental to MARC (and community localization in general) and that Wikidata isn't a substitute. I would vehemently argue, though, that most of problems being addressed here CAN be solved using a dedicated RWO-oriented Wikibase model combined with enforcement of immutable labels. It would be easier to demonstrate the pros and cons with examples and historical context than explain in words, but I'll try starting with an example:
 
For example, is Hello Kitty one thing or three?
 
* Concept: http://id.loc.gov/authorities/names/no2015121100
* RWO: http://id.loc.gov/rwo/agents/no2015121100
* Nomen: https://ld4-wbs-test.wiki.opencura.com/Q9999999
 
One way to interpret this is to say that the Concept and the Nomen are two angels dancing on the head of a RWO pin. Thanks to Wikidata, I think that everyone now understands that the RWO is the pin on which various proprietary concepts and nomens are dancing.

Revision as of 22:38, 15 November 2021

Jeff Young - OCLC Research

While I like the idea of mocking up LCSH in a Wikibase instance, I think that basing it on Nomen (as opposed to "concepts" and/or "RWOs") is misguided and increases complexity rather than resolve it.

I understand and agree that Access Control Points are fundamental to MARC (and community localization in general) and that Wikidata isn't a substitute. I would vehemently argue, though, that most of problems being addressed here CAN be solved using a dedicated RWO-oriented Wikibase model combined with enforcement of immutable labels. It would be easier to demonstrate the pros and cons with examples and historical context than explain in words, but I'll try starting with an example:

For example, is Hello Kitty one thing or three?

One way to interpret this is to say that the Concept and the Nomen are two angels dancing on the head of a RWO pin. Thanks to Wikidata, I think that everyone now understands that the RWO is the pin on which various proprietary concepts and nomens are dancing.