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I understand and agree that Access Control Points are fundamental to MARC (and community localization in general) and that Wikidata isn't a substitute. I would vehemently argue, though, that most of problems being addressed here CAN be solved using a dedicated RWO-oriented Wikibase model combined with enforcement of immutable labels. It would be easier to demonstrate the pros and cons with examples and historical context than explain in words, but I'll try starting with an example:
I understand and agree that Access Control Points are fundamental to MARC (and community localization in general) and that Wikidata isn't a substitute. I would vehemently argue, though, that most of problems being addressed here CAN be solved using a dedicated RWO-oriented Wikibase model combined with enforcement of immutable labels. It would be easier to demonstrate the pros and cons with examples and historical context than explain in words, but I'll try starting with an example:


For example, is Hello Kitty one thing or three?
Is Hello Kitty one thing or three?


* Concept: http://id.loc.gov/authorities/names/no2015121100
* Concept: http://id.loc.gov/authorities/names/no2015121100
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* Nomen: https://ld4-wbs-test.wiki.opencura.com/Q9999999
* Nomen: https://ld4-wbs-test.wiki.opencura.com/Q9999999


One way to interpret this is to say that the Concept and the Nomen are two angels dancing on the head of a RWO pin. Thanks to Wikidata, I think that everyone now understands that the RWO is the pin on which various proprietary concepts and nomens are dancing.
Note that the properties that can be associated with each are radically different.
 
The Fundamental theorem of software engineering states:
 
"We can solve any problem by introducing an extra level of indirection."
 
With the humorous clause...
 
... except for the problem of too many levels of indirection.

Revision as of 23:07, 15 November 2021

Jeff Young - OCLC Research

While I like the idea of mocking up LCSH in a Wikibase instance, I think that basing it on Nomen (as opposed to "concepts" and/or "RWOs") is misguided and increases complexity rather than resolve it.

I understand and agree that Access Control Points are fundamental to MARC (and community localization in general) and that Wikidata isn't a substitute. I would vehemently argue, though, that most of problems being addressed here CAN be solved using a dedicated RWO-oriented Wikibase model combined with enforcement of immutable labels. It would be easier to demonstrate the pros and cons with examples and historical context than explain in words, but I'll try starting with an example:

Is Hello Kitty one thing or three?

Note that the properties that can be associated with each are radically different.

The Fundamental theorem of software engineering states:

"We can solve any problem by introducing an extra level of indirection."

With the humorous clause...

... except for the problem of too many levels of indirection.